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Transcript for Macworld Podcast episode 821: Memorable Apple moments for 2022
RL : 2022 was a year filled with passel of moment from Apple . Some were fantastical , while others were , well , meh , to put it lightly . And on this episode of the Macworld Podcast , we ’re let the cat out of the bag about the second from Apple that struck a chord with the staff of Macworld . Stay tune . Welcome to the Macworld Podcast . I ’m Roman Loyola [ RL ] here with Karen Haslam [ KH ] .
KH : Hi . RL : And David Price [ displaced person ] .
stateless person : Hi .
RL : I ’m sure you ’ve seen Karen and David ’s bylines on Macworld . And in showcase you did n’t have it away , they are establish in the U.K. and it ’s really prissy to have you two on the show .
KH : Thanks for invite us . DP : Thanks for getting up so too soon , Roman .
RL : Oh , it ’s not a trouble . We should have you guys on the show more often . For hearer who care ( in all probability do n’t ) , I ’m based in San Francisco . They ’re based in the U.K. , so that ’s like what , an eight - hour time difference of opinion ?
DP : Yeah , and you ’re very much bearing the brunt of it today . So I retrieve next time we necessitate to stay up a bit later .
RL : It ’s not a problem . It ’s not a problem at all .
KH : Just finish work early today , Roman . I think you ’re allow that .
RL : Yeah I ’ll time out betimes . Thank you . So a mickle come about with Apple this preceding class , obviously . Some thing resonate more than others . And to terminate the class , we ’re decease to confabulate about some of those moments , the ones that really made an impression on us , dependable or bad . Do you have a particular Apple outcome , moment , product , that stood out of 2022 ?
KH : Well , one of the ones that I suppose of was the Mac Studio . So I ’ll babble out a scrap about that . One of the primary ground why that sort of came up for me is because it really is the only Pro Mac update we ’ve regard all yr and that really incidentally fall out to be one of my lowlights of the yr , the fact that there was n’t a lot of Pro Mac news . But anyway , we ’ll mouth about that later .
You have it off , with the Mac Studio , it fills the gap leave behind by the now , discontinue 27 - in iMac and the fact that Apple still has n’t updated the Mac Pro . I had been hope for an M1 Pro Mac mini but that has n’t arrive yet . So , I ’m a number of a letdown too , but anyway . The Mac Studio , it ’s the option for Mac Pros at the moment , really . It ’s the only selection .
RL : There was a disruption there that we were n’t trusted that Apple was going to fill up ?
KH : What I was expecting at the fourth dimension was an M1 Pro Mac mini . I consider they would replace that Mac mini with the Intel bit that they ’re still deal . A Mac miniskirt that would sort of primed in that sort of col and sort of take the Mac mini to a more professional audience because I recognise it ’s quite popular in sort of certain areas so it seemed like it was that they were miss that form of background for the professional and what they did at the meter was they stop the iMac , the 27 - inch iMac . And yeah , what we end up with is a Mac Studio , which is , I believe , a good variety of fill disruption for this meter period where we do n’t really have a Mac Pro and we do n’t have a professional or an iMac Pro . The biggest problem in the Mac Studio is the availability . I mean , I think much unacceptable to get hold of the M1 Ultra variant . It ’s got a mess of goodness to say about it , but in a way , that ’s because there ’s nothing good to say about any other Pro Max right now .
RL : Yeah , it ’s a eldritch … We ’re in a uncanny situation now because Apple said they were going to do a two - yr rollout . We all expected in 2022 that we were go away to see the Mac Pro . And then there were even rumor of an iMac Pro or a 27 - inch iMac replacement . So we thought that we were going to get those eminent - close Macs and then the one we produce , which is a good machine , the Mac Studio , it ’s a really good car .
The thing I like about the Mac Studio too , it ’s a powerful machine in this decent small footmark . Although I know some people call for a braggy footprint with a tower to put batting order in and stuff .
KH : You ca n’t serve but sort of think , you know , Apple ’s made this misapprehension double already with the Cube all those years ago , and then the piston chamber or trash can Mac Pro , you sleep with , it ’s like is it a misunderstanding it ’s made again ? Has it examine to do a pro Mac in a tiny embodiment ? And hopefully , that ’s not the case .
RL : Yeah , Apple certainly does seem to be instant that there ’s a requirement for a small-scale pro - similar simple machine that , you know , it ’s summary .
KH : In some path , you could sort of look at the 16 - inch MacBook Pro with the M1 Max splintering and you could say there ’s your Pro Mac . There ’ve been so many great muckle on the 14 - column inch and 16 - in MacBook Pro because you sleep together fundamentally , they did n’t wreak out newfangled models so everyone ’s selling off the honest-to-goodness one . That really is n’t a salutary political machine , you cognize , there ’s no reason not to bribe one at these , price . credibly going to be a bit annoyed if they ’re now $ 400 less than they were when you bribe one .
DP : Is that your recommendation at the present moment then ? If somebody needs a pro machine rather than waiting for a new iMac Pro or a new Mac Pro , you opine they should grease one’s palms a MacBook Pro that ’s just a petty bit previous and lay aside their money .
KH : In that deference , I definitely have something to say because I reckon when Apple , at least for us multitude in the U.K. and anywhere else outside of the U.S. , I consider when Apple brings out the fresh , MacBook Pros , they ’re going to lift the price because when they brought out the new iPads in October , the cost across the range produce by like up to 25 pct in the U.K. And so on the high end , we ’re now paying like more than like 200 , 300 Egyptian pound more than we were before . You know , it ’s just like prices and I have sex it ’s due to commutation rate and everything else , but if when they take out the M2 Pro and the M2 Max MacBook Pros , they could , they could cost considerably more than they do right now . I think , you know , you ’d be wise to just sort of keep your money and probably at that percentage point you ’ll be able to get even better discounts on the M1 Pros .
RL : Yeah , that ’s another thing that kind of stood out from Apple this year is that in the U.S. the prices went up , but not as much as they did in the U.K. and in other country . It was a drastic increase in price . David , do you have something that stood out to you for 2022 ?
DP : Are we being positive or negative ? That ’s the dubiousness . A minuscule bit of a highlighting for me was the Apple Watch Ultra . I did enjoy that . I give it a sort of average review . I did havesome consequence with it , but what I did like about it was that they give it another clitoris , which is a variety of a bit of an fixation with me . I think it ’s an obsession with them as well . That they are dire to get rid of all the buttons they can . Maybe this is a Johnny I ve legacy thing that wo n’t happen now that he ’s gone , but you feel like his optimal product is like a consummate white-hot sphere that has no ascendence or user interaction whatsoever . And then this class they actually added a button . So they ’d had that classic release plus telephone dial Apple Watch design for seven generations . This was the eighth .
And they brought in the Apple Watch Ultra with an action release on the left - hand side . I had to say I find it quite difficult to use because I was so used to the seven propagation . I reckon I ’ve had one from every one of the genesis . You rest your right thumb on the left - manus side of the machine so as to iron the side button or the digital crest . When you finally vary , then you ’re not used to it and your heftiness memory does that . I was turning on the torch and starting off physical exertion by stroke all the time . That should be okay in the future .
I really like what it says about Apple ’s priorities in footing of design and usability and what they prioritise is that instead of … you feel Apple of five years ago they would have just say well this is how it ’s expire to be we need it to look as decent as potential we do n’t care what you want somehow it ’s quite squeamish that they ’ve made that conclusion it ’s a bit of a compromise they ’ve sort of thought about it and they ’ve worked out that somebody with openhanded productive gloves on who ’s hiking across a snow-white landscape is pass to want a little easy to dispatch button rather than going through the menu so yeah I like that I thought that was a flake of a highlight it ’s such a small affair I recognize .
RL : With the Apple Watch Ultra , you take that push button there as you point out to perform certain functions . You require admittance to those function basically instantaneously and you ca n’t do it any other mode . And you could debate that that clit is elegance , you live , elegance does n’t have to mean a deficiency of controls .
stateless person : For me , elegance is usability . I do n’t think they ’re in contradiction in terms at all . I consider a gadget that does everything it needs to do in the right way . That ’s elegance and it always sadden me when I feel like there ’s somebody with a spreadsheet somewhere that ’s going , well that ’s too complicated , we ask to prune it down for no reason . And just , well , I do n’t think you do .
And it is skillful , it looks prissy , it ’s orange , always good . You know , more orange tech products is always good , nice bright orange button . Yeah , it ’s a decent one .
KH : It ’s a very niche sort of … it used to be that the expensive Apple spotter were , you know , the ones that were made from atomic number 22 were kind of like go after that eminent end of the market . Where , you know , you had the mass who had the condition symbolisation and they ’d be prepared to pay for those Hermes straps and everything else . But it ’s almost like they ’ve decide to not bother with that part of the mart so much now and go after the sports , the sort of sport enthusiasts and I do n’t experience if that ’s dead on target , if they really have given up on the melodic theme of mass , who wear a watch as a condition symbol in favour of people who use it for sports and peradventure that is a monumental market , much bigger than I realize but yeah it seems like a ecological niche .
DP : I think they ’re both , very small market place so you ’ve get the influencer slash famous person fashion securities industry and you ’ve become the extreme sports , hiker , outdoors character marketplace . I cerebrate in both those cases , they ’ll sell very few unit . It ’s like that old - fashioned strategy of receive the catwalk . The couture items that a manner recording label has on the catwalk , they ’re going to sell almost none of them . But they exist to make the marque that they then sell through dissemination lines to everybody else . Obviously , they ’ve changed what they desire to seem like . It used to be that they go , well , look , Dr. Dre , a renowned someone ( I think that ’s right ) , Dr. Dre has an Apple Watch variant made of gold . Therefore , you want one . now peradventure . The public has changed what they think about , you know , it ’s the great unwashed who want to emulate and now they ’re saying , well , you want to be like these mass that go on icy expeditions . I sleep with I have to say I tested the Apple Watch Ultra . I ’m not an Arctic explorer and I was sort of witting that a heap of its features were n’t utile for me .
You have a go at it , as I was order with the military action button , I stop up using it just for trigger off physical exertion , which I do n’t think is a sea wolf diligence . I think if you ’re doing it for waypoints on a hike , it ’s very utile . But yeah , I ’m not in the niche and I had to say , be careful when you choose whether to buy it , that you are in the ecological niche , as you said , Karen , which is , which is a pretty small one .
RL : I have not seen an Apple Watch Ultra in the natural state . That makes gumption . Cause it ’s , you know , I ’m not hanging out in it at the Arctic Circle or in the Himalayas or anything like that . You get it on what I mean ? Just take the air down the street .
DP : Yeah . I mean , it ’s possibly less effective as a condition symbolic representation anyway , because it ’s a bit uncomfortable , um , cause it ’s , it ’s thicker to make it more robust , but that means it does n’t really fit under your shirt quite as comfortably . And it ’s not so nice to slumber when you ’re fag it . So , uh , it ’s more of a , like a self - reinforcing niche than the Apple lookout man edition , which you just had to have money for .
RL : Is that still a thing that hoi polloi see Apple products or do people still consider of Apple products as a position symbol because they ’re so usual now ?
DP : You decidedly get people who use an anti - Apple posture as a condition symbol of their own . And there are plenty of Samsung smartphones and hooey that are just as expensive , peradventure more so than the Apple eq . get those folding phones at $ 2,000 . So yeah , I do n’t cognise if it is as much of a position symbol any longer . They sure as shooting want it to be .
RL : Yeah , they want it to be . And perhaps subconsciously it is . And for us , maybe it is because we play , you have it away , we do what we do and , you experience , we ’re a little more aware of that kind of thing . When I go on the bus , I see what phones the great unwashed are using , I see if they ’re wearing Apple Watches , not because it ’s a status thing , it ’s just the thing that I ’ve always done .
KH : We ’re hyper - aware , are n’t we , because of what we do .
RL : Yeah .
DP : They do seem more basic to us . We get desensitized to it . So , occasionally I ’ll rack up out the latest iPhone or iPad and somebody will go , oh , look at you , you ’ve got that . And I ’ll be like , oh , well , I brush up it . So it ’s just , it ’s worked for me . But yeah , very silly . My life is very strange .
KH : I was just going to say , maybe there will be a benefit and the price is stand up next year if it ’s all of a sudden making a sample look like that . sort of , you jazz . Um , think the great unwashed shoot for to because they ca n’t afford anymore .
stateless person : Yeah , that ’s in all probability true of almost everything , is n’t it ? People will say , oh , I can open to devote my gas bill . And they go , wow , you must be full-bodied . search at you . It ’s going to be pretty dreadful .
RL : What else ? Any other moments that stay out ? Karen , do you have any other , uh , moment that perplex out for you , that Apple ?
KH : So yeah , I did mention already just , my depressed light being the fact that there were no pro proclamation . And when the Mac Studio arrived , I call back thinking , oh bright , Apple ’s catering for originative pros again . After they got all that blast a few years back about the Mac Pro , not sort of the piston chamber Mac Pro just not being upgradeable . And they basically backed themselves into a firm recess with that one . and it was just like , you have it off , they even had a meeting where they told creative pro , sorry , sorry , you screw , they apologized . And having think that they did n’t do anything else for originative pro all yr . So I ’m bright for 2023 that you know , we are going to see an M2 Pro Mac miniskirt , for example , and the M2 Pro and Max for the MacBook Pros . And , you know , the fact that Apple miss its own deadline with the Mac Pro , it ’s a second embarrassing really . And I ’m trusted there are right reasons for that . But Apple is still selling a Mac mini and Mac Pro with an Intel central processor . And like I said before , they ’ve got this monolithic break where the 27 - column inch iMacs no longer . And I find like I ’m reprize myself a bit here because I have address about some of this already . But I ’d say that that is , to me , that would be a prominent thing this class .
RL : When Apple does finally reveal the Mac Pro , I hope that there ’s something about it that made us go , Oh , that ’s why you guys had to wait . Not just like , an M2 Pro CPU or something like that . Just something about it that made you go , yeah , you needed to take some time for that , I understand now . Yeah , because we were all kind of excited about it last year , this past year . None of us are going to purchase a Mac Pro . It ’s a simple machine beyond us . But we want to see what Apple can do with a machine like that . You sleep together , it ’s an indication of what kind of innovations issue forth out from Cupertino . It ’s a little disappointing that we have to hold off a little longer .
KH : But it looks like 2023 could be a good year for innovations . If the hearsay are correct , thing that we ’re hoping are going to pass . And that ’s not just like Mac Pro , but thing like , are they go to bring out a HomePod with a screen now that they ’ve got this Apple Music Sing thing ? What ’s the point of having the lyrics if you ca n’t see them other than on your headphone ? Yeah , the goggles , the Apple VR headset , and affair like that . I do n’t really even though if there ’s a , if that ’s going to be a big deal , but it ’s like you say , it ’s the thing that Apple ’s capable of . And we ’ve , we ’ve not really see them introduce especially other than with the clit on the side of the , um , Apple Watch Ultra . So it make me hopeful for next yr that we will see some interesting things as something confirming for next class , maybe .
RL : David , do you have another moment ?
displaced person : I ’ve arrest a slam . I desire to mosh Apple .
RL : Alright , let ’s hear it .
DP : About the iPad . The iPad 10 , which is another thing I survey and whenever I show it to people they go , that ’s amazing because it ’s very bright pink . It looks really good , but I got really annoyed with it because it ’s compatible with the Apple Pencil gen one , which is really old and annoying . Then gen two came out in 2018 , so they ’ve had four years on the grocery store with that . And to have a unexampled iPad come out which does n’t support the newer Apple Pencil is itself irritating . But on top of that , it ’s only sort of semi - compatible with the first gen Apple Pencil because it does n’t have a Lightning interface , it ’s USB - C. And the first - gen Apple Pencil charges flat into a Lightning port wine . So you have to apply a dongle . It ’s kind of mortifying .
RL : It ’s funny though because we were just verbalise about elegance and how Apple wish to take away button , but then they care to add dongle to everything .
displaced person : They do . You just think , how did they leave out the ball this badly ? There ’re various technological intellect why it ’s pass off . you may sort of see mayhap some sort of long commission summons that each person ’s said , well , let ’s do this . And it ’s all ended up adding up to this complicated and unsatisfying result . There ’s a landscape predilection front - confront camera , which sits where the wireless send social unit would be to charge the gen 2 Apple Pencil . They could n’t really do that . They did need to elevate to USB - C this twelvemonth because it was the last Lightning iPad . That was inevitable . you’re able to see how they end up in this situation . They were understood to have been working on an Apple Pencil gen 3 , which would have been cheaper and charge by USB - hundred and be compatible with this . That was the theme in the first place , people intend . This does make sensory faculty that they would have then launched those two thing together .
Then they decided not to launch the gen 3 Apple Pencil . At that point , you have to say , well , then let ’s push back the launching of the iPad 10 or do something . But instead , they just blasted on ahead and go , dongle it , it ’ll be fine . It ’s all a bit unsatisfying .
KH : Did n’t Steve Jobs once criticise dongle ? That exact reason . If you demand a dongle , then you ’ve done something amiss . I ’m sure he did . But possibly I ’m envisage . It sounds like the sort of affair he ’d say and certainly not the sort of affair he would have let do out , I ’m sure . scads of Apple fan saying the same thing . But , you know , and they ’ve said about all of the stuff that comes out , Steve Jobs would never have allowed that . But honestly , I really think in this case , he in all likelihood would have had people working around the clock to desexualize it anyway .
DP : Yeah , I mean , arguably , he would n’t have allow the Apple Pencil to subsist anyway , because I think he was against styluses . But yeah , it ’s a real number , it ’s a actual ruby masthead , I think , about the standards that they ’re allowing of ware to amount through the pipeline and I just purl that , will this do ? I guess it will and we can charge nine dollars for the dongle . I should say it comes bundled but if you lose it , which you will because it ’s tiny , then you have to pay nine dollars .
KH : The dongle does n’t work does it ? If you wanted to use a Lightning to USB - C that dongle would n’t work for you to do that ?
DP : Yeah it ’s one utilization only . So I actually got this wrong ab initio , I consider you had to connect it . The manner they suggest to use it is , plug , power outlet , cable , dongle . Another dongle , another cable and then to the iPad . But you’re able to actually … no I ’ve get that all unseasonable . Anyway , you may actually , this is how much it confused me , you may load the Apple Pencil unmediated from the mains using it , or you may plug it into the iPad . It work for those two thing . I should say two use . But as you order , Karen , you ca n’t use it as a generic USB - degree Celsius to Lightning . It would be female to female person anyway , which would mean it would have limited usage anyway . But no , it does n’t puzzle out for that because a standard Lightning , what do you call the piece that pick out the male end , I guess , that wo n’t fit out in it . It ’s the improper size for that . It ’s just limited .
Somebody on Reddit actually have an electric putz and charge it down so that it would fit , which I really retrieve is severe . But even then it did n’t work . It ’s , just wired up wrongly to do anything other than twosome with an iPad or charge an Apple Pencil . Those are the only two things we can do . Very plaguey . RL : Well , besides the Apple Pencil stuff and nonsense , the new iPad ’s sort of an queerly positioned merchandise , right ? Because you have , they still kept the old iPad , and then you have the iPad Air , which is a small turn more money . I mean , it just creates this jumble and this lineup that ’s kind of …
DP : If somebody came to me for advice and said , which one should I bribe , I would obtain that difficult because you go ninth gen iPad is the cheap one now , then you ’ve got the 10th gen iPad , which is significantly more expensive , particularly here in the U.K. , it ’s very much so . But I mean , then again , in the U.K. , the iPad 9 belong up in price when it was a year old , which is insane , but even in the U.S. , it stay the same , which is not how it was supposed to form . Yeah , as you said , then you ’ve catch the iPad Air , then you think about things like the iPad Pro . It ’s a very perplexing range . And I do n’t really cognise who it ’s all aim at .
KH : Apple ’s way of identify across the range is just by the mainframe . Like you essentially get the A12 , the A13 , the A14 , and that is how you play out which one ’s for you . But actually , there ’s not a big difference in toll for normal people is what they can be doing with an iPad .
DP : And something like the landscape camera maybe would be more significant to somebody . You know , like my parent , for example , they use the iPad a lot for FaceTime . That ’s their main utilization of their iPad . So for them , a landscape photographic camera is a significant upgrade and that ’s not usable on any of the more expensive iPads . So it ’s such a unearthly , it ’s second from the bottom of the range , has the nicest front - facing camera for most iPad usage .
It ’s just , it does n’t feel very recollect through . You know , it does n’t feel like somebody sat down at the origin of 2022 and thought at the end of the year , how do you desire the grasp to look so that it will make sense and anybody will be able-bodied to work out what to buy . They just seem to each month go , oh , there ’s a new iPad to free this month . What should we put in it ? and just stumble through like that .
RL : You know , there have been hearsay of a HomePod with an iPad , whether that ’s a built - in one or it has a stand that you could set an iPad . And if you call back of that , the 10th gen iPad as a companion to that HomePod , then it makes sense . So if they had released this iPad at the same meter , perhaps it would seem , maybe its role would be a trivial more well-defined . But we do n’t even know if that HomePod is really going to happen or not . That ’s all been a hearsay .
stateless person : I ’m not very happy with the HomePod at the here and now . I do n’t particularly want a newfangled HomePod . The strength of Siri , I do n’t know how this is working out for you two , but for me , Siri has experience significantly worse this yr .
KH : Yeah , I was giving up on my HomePod and alternate to an Alexa because I just would n’t do half the things I wanted to do when I asked it and I just got really frustrated . I think it ’s not just Siri not understand us . I intend it ’s just not , it ’s the user interface not working and not , not like , you roll in the hay , I ’d ask Siri to play a particular radiocommunication post and nine times out of 10 it would n’t do it or it would start shamble my songs or something like that . And it ’s just like , it ’s a simple thing . And with Alexa , it just works every time . So , you know , I intend , I love Apple , but it ’s just failed in that regard , I think .
And it ’s the same for like , Apple TV , the box , ripe ? You have a go at it , it ’s a great idea , but now we ’ve all got all of that poppycock on our TVs anyway . And the excess stuff and nonsense that the Apple TV box convey you , the sort of gaming and thing like that , I do n’t really care about . So yeah , it feel a bit like Apple ’s lost some of the reasons that made it so upright . Because it ’s kind of stopped and other people have filled the gaps , I think . But I think we ’re being a scrap negative . RL : So we start endeavor to wrap it up on a lighter note . So the one thing that Apple did this past year that I really bask , that really made my year for Apple was the Apple TV+ series , Severance . I really enjoyed that show . Have you guy watched it at all?KH : I have n’t watched it , no .
displaced person : Yeah . Great show .
RL : You guys have n’t watched it ? For people who do n’t know , Severance , the show , the premiss of the show is that it ’s set , it ’s not needs set in the future , but it ’s set in a world where you’re able to have your , you essentially have your brain split so that you go into a piece of work environment and you have your work life and then when you pull up stakes oeuvre , your non - work living gripe in and you have no memory of what happened at workplace . So it ’s basically this idea that each person , the people who are severed , not everybody does this , but people who are severed work for this one especial ship’s company , and eventually what happens is the two humankind start to collide and you start to see what happens when people who are basically , who are hold out two animation are not unknown to each other . That ’s the other thing . They do n’t know it ’s unnamed to each other . So they begin have these conflicts and it creates some pretty expert plot line and the acting is very dependable . Christopher Walken ’s in it . He ’s excellent . John Turturro ’s in it . They ’re both first-class . Adam Scott , think his name is , is basically the lead of the show . Patricia Arquette ’s in . I highly recommend it I ca n’t wait for season 2 so that ’s that that was my highlight from Apple in ’ 22 . Also an honorable mentiongoes to dim Horses , have you guys seen Slow Horses ?
KH : I have n’t seen that one either but I ’ve hear people talk about it so yeah it ’s supposed to be unspoilt . stateless person : No .
RL : I think that ’s a U.K. show .
displaced person : Oh , we fail in our duty .
KH : I think you ’ve sort of hit on one of the big problems of Apple TV+ though , and that ’s people are n’t tattle about it because not enough hoi polloi have got it , at least not here in the U.K. I do n’t know if it ’s different in the States , but you kind of , do n’t hear about shows in the same way as you do with other services where you ’ll hear everyone speak about a finical show that ’s on . The only show most people have heard of is credibly Ted Lasso because it get so much publicity because of winning all those laurels . But there are so many things on Apple TV that multitude just do n’t even know about .
I was going to say one of my thing about Apple TV is I pay for it for a calendar month and watch and catch up on appearance I require to watch . I pay for it in the summer so I could watch Trying and I ’ll belike sign up again for a month so I can watch that one about the gaming party . I ca n’t believe of it …
RL : Mythic Quest .
DP : Mythic Quest .
KH : Mythic Quest , I know there ’s a new serial of that . But I do n’t pay for it . I do n’t keep the subscription going because there ’s not enough that I ’m mindful of that I require to watch on there . I call up what Apple needs is to do something like Disney Plus did where they have Star as well . So they ’ve stupefy a back catalog of other display . There might be something that you will watch indisputable you feel like there ’s so much poppycock that you wo n’t be able-bodied to view it all in a calendar month .
RL : Severance has not experience the bombination that Ted Lasso has gotten . Severance has get some award nomination here in the U.S. I do n’t intend they ’ve won anything . But that ’s a good degree . Shows on Apple TV+ here in the U.S. , they make some dissonance , but people are n’t needs talking about the service like they do like they talk about Netflix or they lecture about Hulu , mass in the medium tend to spotlight those fussy services , whereas Apple TV+ here in the U.S. has n’t needs gotten the same kind of traction in terms of that aid . It ’s more about the case-by-case shows . Apple TV+ has some character content on it , so that ’s a good thing they have going for it . So they just have to keep establish that library .
DP : Yeah , the collision charge per unit is high than on any service I ’ve tried . I would say it seems like about half of the stuff they have is good , which is an extraordinary , extraordinary ratio . Bad Sisters , Bad Sisters is beneficial as well , if you get a probability to see that .
RL : There ’s sort of a joke in the U.S. that Netflix has a gross ton of depicted object , but most of it ’s kind of refuse .
KH : With Apple TV , I screw it ’s probably up to about 60 display now or something like that , but it ’s still … they just take some back catalog things on there that people want to watch . They ’ve kind of backed themselves into a corner again like they always do by read , we ’re just kick the bucket to have our own stuff and it ’s going to be amazing and we ’re going to have the best of whatever .
displaced person : But they say the same affair about Apple Arcade and then they make out up with that little loophole where they said , yes , it has to be original to Apple Arcade . So what we ’ll do is we ’ll get Snake or whatever and we ’ll call it Snake+ and now it ’s original even though it ’s a frame - for - anatomy remake . So they could do something . There ’s blatantly some wiggle way . And I did take heed rumors that they were considering buying a back catalog from somebody .
KH : There are a lot of people that I see on groups talking about Apple stuff and nonsense and they ’re confused . They do n’t understand why they ’re just paid for Apple TV+ and they do n’t have access to all of the content that they ’re hear when they look at the Apple TV app without realizing that they are only getting Apple TV+ , they ’re not getting access to the whole iTunes subroutine library of content .
RL : Yeah , there ’s a detachment that take to be more clear .
KH : Yeah , masses are just really confused . They think they ’re burn into this service that offer them a peck more , I think . Some do .
stateless person : You do get something interchangeable with Amazon Prime , that whenever I ’m looking through that , and I ’ll see thing and go , oh , I ’d like to see that . Oh , it ’s not on Prime . Okay , you have to pay extra for it . But you need the cleanness of the Netflix app where everything you say , it ’s all yours . That ’s the good experience .
RL : Well , that does it for this episode of the Macworld Podcast , sequence 821 . Thanks to Karen Haslem .
KH : give thanks you .
RL : Thanks to David Price .
DP : Thank you .
