The new year is often used as a gateway for change . And while Apple does plenty of thing right , we ’re hoping that Apple takes this cue and introduces some much - needed changes of its own . In this episode of the Macworld Podcast , we talk about what we hope to see from Apple in 2023 . Some of these ideas will seem outrageous , but a good deal of them are naturalistic and would make for good customer experiences and a in force company .
This is sequence 822 withJason Cross , Michael Simon , andRoman Loyola .
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Transcript for Macworld Podcast episode 822: Apple, make our hopes and dreams for 2023 come true!
RL : Happy New Year , everyone ! And with the new year come new hope . And since this is the Macworld podcast , we have Bob Hope for what we ’d like to see from Apple in 2023 . On this episode , we sing about those hopes for the company . Stay tuned . Welcome to the Macworld podcast . You ’re take heed to Michael Simon [ MS].I conflate it up . I mixed it up for the Modern year .
JC : Michael ’s not ready .
RL : Yes , I mixed it up for the new yr .
JC : swop it around this yr .
MS : Uh , uh , Hi .
RL : And Jason Cross [ JC ] .
JC : Hello , sir .
RL : And I ’m Roman Loyola [ RL].The newfangled class is often used as a gateway for alteration . And while Apple does mountain of things ripe , we ’re hop that Apple claim this cue , introduces some much - needed variety of its own . We have a few thing we ’re hoping Apple does in 2023 . So we ’re gon na talk about them over the next few minutes .
I can kick off our Leslie Townes Hope list with something that go all against Apple ’s production philosophy .
JC : Yeah .
RL : Apple is expected to give up the Mac Pro this year . These are users that often have intricate hardware setups and upgrades are complicated enough for regular folks like you and me . So the upgrade process for pro can be a little bit more torturesome , I hypothesise .
So my hope is that when Apple unveils the Mac Pro that ’s conjecture to be unveiled this twelvemonth , that it has more user - accessible upgrades than Apple usually does . You know , to bug out with , I ’d care to see upgradable memory slots . And my real dream is that Apple figures out a direction to have the Mac Pro have an upgradeable scheme on a chip .
JC : Wow . you’re able to upgrade the CPU . Boy , that is not going to happen .
MS : Yeah .
RL : No , I do n’t think it in all likelihood wo n’t happen . But you know , I have high hopes .
MS : I stand for , the RAM , I think is , I give that 60/40 , maybe 70/30 . I think that ’s a strong opening , even though the M1 / M2 has unified RAM and you ca n’t bear on it after you upgraded , at the point of sale .
MS : The Mac Pro I think is lead to be a different sort of matter . So I would not be at all surprised if you may , you cognise … I do n’t live if they ’re going to be Apple stick or whatever you got to buy , but some manner that you may add Aries after the fact .
RL : Well , that would be ugly if it was a proprietary RAM .
MS : I intend , I do n’t know . Jason know more about this stuff than me , but like , could they do that where you just buy Kensington stick and plug it in ?
JC : Never say never . But the way the organisation on flake work is part of the whole reason they can be as performant as they are , particularly with the graphics on the Mac Studio and everything , is that they have a really wide memory coach to chips that are physically located right around the SoC with very brusque ghost , a very wide busbar solder onto the motherboard .
To go through a memory bus to a plug - in piece of RAM , it ’s not impossible to have a wide memory board double-decker , but they ’re just not move to get the public presentation that they get . It ’s going to be a real via media over what they do now with the SoC. They do n’t have that problem with the Intel ones because all the graphics material is a plug - in batting order that has its own random-access memory that is not upgradeable . It ’s on the wit , and that ’s how much artwork RAM you have .
Yeah , I reckon this move to the Apple atomic number 14 mean no upgrade for that and probably no rise for storage because … they also trust on depot . I do n’t need to go storage as RAM , but the path they switch storage and move clobber in storage with this really , really fast entrepot and a big storage cache , they require to make certain that the entrepot performs a sure fashion . So just popping in any onetime M.2 driveway , you could really host your system functioning if it does n’t meet certain performance characteristic in sealed ways . And it ’s not just like how tight is the transfer of training speed . It ’s drop dead to be like IOPS per indorsement of things this size . So I would be disquieted that even memory will not be upgradeable .
MS : All right . So no random access memory , no storage .
JC : Like like what ’s left ?
MS : Yeah . What ’s the point of the Mac Pro ? Because you have the Mac Studio like that ’s we bring us back to that interrogative , which is why we really want to see this thing , because I mean , maybe Roman ’s right field . Maybe they will just say , you know what ? This is a all unlike affair .
MS : Aimed for a totally unlike person , start at $ 10,000 . You buy it and yeah , you could call us up and get an M3 chip shot , get an M4 chip and it ’s all super expensive and very modular and it ’s only for like 0.8 percent of our substance abuser .
JC : Yeah , I could see them offering an upgrade itinerary where it ’s like you take it in and it ’s basically a motherboard swop . You just have to switch the whole system display board with a new SoC and all that hooey . They transfer all your stuff in computer memory from one to the other or something . I do n’t know .
MS : Yeah . I think of , it would be certainly modern if they go that route .
JC : Yeah . As a service matter .
MS : Yeah . It would have to start at , like I allege , like $ 10,000 . Some number that cuts out multitude like you and I who are going to call up and say , hey , I want the new chip now . They ’re like , can you just lay off ? It has to be for people who really need it , really want it , and can open to do it .
JC : It ’s an interesting ask . I interest that this transition to Apple silicon has had so many benefits in term of carrying out at a certain amount of power function . But it come up at the compromise of punch in stuff inside your computer ’s expire on the inside . And it ’s just function to be more performance than Mac Studio , more I / O , more like Thunderbolt ports , SD scorecard slot , all that other kind of stuff , more external expansion , perhaps HDMI 2.1 , I do n’t know . But that form of stuff is live to be what pull in it pro over the Mac Studio . It ’s a secure wish though for the wish list . It ’s like , hey , retrieve your roots , Apple . You were the tinker troupe . You were the ship’s company that was all about … when IBM was all locked down . You were like , no , you open it up . You buy tup chip and you slot them in .
RL : It would be a modernization of that upgradable melodic theme , I guess . And to put it in an Apple selling sense , it ’s not genuinely substance abuser - upgradable in term of what the PC masses are always wanting .
JC : Right .
RL : Yeah . I think of , it does seem like an impossible chore , but hey , Apple , you’re able to figure it out . I do n’t think it will really happen , but hey , why not ?
JC : I always thought it would be very , very interesting if Apple charter the independent architecture that it has central processing unit computer architecture , its GPU architecture , and made separate chips for the Mac Pro . Instead of it all being one as the SoC , you ’d have one micro chip that is your CPU and maybe machine watch stuff and nonsense is on that die as well . Then another chip is that your GPU with its own bank of memory and stuff . Maybe you’re able to replace that . perchance that ’s on a card or something . I do n’t think they ’re going that road . I do n’t think they need to do that . I think they see a fortune of benefits to it all being integrate into one matter . That would be a direction for them to get around the problem of the current Mac Studios scrap is ginormous . Like just manufacturability . It is huge . It is at the very boundary of what you could literally put on a silicon wafer and get a functioning flake that does n’t have too many defect to be usable . Silicon wafer , sorry .
RL : Mike , do you have something on your , bid list ?
MS : Yep . Mine ’s more or less more realistic but still likely likely not to happen . I want , so we ’ve talked about this for a while with the iPad , I want like a whatever you require to call it a screen background mode where when you pop that thing onto a Magic Keyboard or a stand or whatever you want to call it , it give you a more of a screen background - like environment . Like the apps do n’t change and the thing do n’t change but it looks more like a background . Samsung does something similar with , I cogitate they still make it that DeX.
MS : They used to call it DeX. I think it is .
JC : Yep .
MS : Where you’re able to plug a tablet or a smartphone into a proctor , into an international video display , and it gives you a full environment for working . It has a wharf and the layout shimmy , apps are floating , thing like that .
Now that the iPad has Stage Manager , which for salutary or worse is the closelipped affair we ’ve had on the iPad to a Mac multitasking interface . I call up that the next , you have a go at it , iPadOS 17 could do that . You have it off , Stage Manager is n’t really great . You know , we can talk about that for an hr .
MS : There are military issue there . Sure . But it ’s certainly like , it shows a completely different way for that Apple is take care at the iPad , at least it ’s higher remnant iPads , the iPad Pro , iPad Air with the M1 chip . So I believe rather than , you know , people are speculate like , oh , well , now that , so if the iPad miniskirt develop it in A17 splintering or an A16 chip , will that run Stage Manager ?
I think that ’s the wrong question . I think what you want to look at is how is Apple going to apply Stage Manager to differentiate its higher - end iPads . I care it was an iPad Pro lineament like the iPad Air – it bothers me that that has an M1 because , you know , it feels like a pro - level thing , like geared towards users who are going to spend $ 1,000 on an iPad because they use it a certain way . But it ’s fine . It could be on the iPad Air 2 .
JC : I dig this idea , but I need to get some limpidity about what you mean . You ’re talking about something more than Stage Manager . You ’re blab out about something where it ’s like , it ’s not macOS because that ’s like a whole other O and everything , but it ’s something where you ’re decease to assume they ’re using a luff equipment , whether it ’s a Bluetooth mouse or it ’s just the trackpad built into the Apple keyboard or whatever . You ’ll have a relentless cursor on concealment . You ’ll have freely resizable window , or at least more freely than Stage Manager , not just a few alternative , things that layer on top of each other , not just Stage Manager , maybe a bobtail of some variety .
MS : Yeah . Well , basically , the development of Stage Manager , because you would plug it in and that ’s the interface that would come up , presumably because that ’s what you ’d be using . But a good interlingual rendition of it , a more evolved version , a more ripe version , a more powerful version , or whatever adjective you want to use there . But I find like Stage Manager is basically just like , all right , so we ’re work on something and we do n’t know what it is yet , but here ’s this . And we ’ll see how citizenry react to it . Yeah , I conceive one of the yield … It does n’t feel like it ’s ready .
JC : One of the number with Stage Manager , I intend , from a design position is they endeavor to make something that is going to to still be useful and usable with a touch interface ?
MS : It ’s not really .
JC : It kind of is n’t and it ’s also not taking vantage of a cursor . It ’s not presume that you ’re going to have a pointing machine and a cursor . I think if they made that eminence , if they said , no , we ’re function to make an interface that presumes you have a pointing machine . It ’s a touchpad or a mouse . You ’re not going to be doing all this with your finger on the silver screen . This only enables when you have a pointing equipment hooked up , whether that ’s dock it in our keyboard or your own pier with a shiner or whatever , and then it enable this sort of Pro mode . That would be an interesting way to go . That might be more utilitarian than what they ’ve done with Stage Manager , which is kind of like , it ’s kind of desktop - comparable , but it ’s kind of tablet - like and it really does n’t fulfil the needs of either one . It ’s kind of pack the worst of both .
MS : When they announce Stage Manager , it seemed like that ’s what they were doing , but just the execution ’s all wrong there .
JC : Yeah , it is .
MS : Yeah , if they dialed it back on the touch side , perchance get rid of it entirely . I put it on my son ’s iPad Air , and he ’s like , I detest this thing . I ’m never using this . It ’s not made for the common drug user . It ’s more of a user who wants their iPad to be a Mac , and there ’s not a long ton of citizenry who want that .
JC : The people who do are proceed to be really ungratified by all the via media that they had to do to Stage Manager to make it a touch interface and not a pointer - driven interface . Embrace the pointer on the Mac , I mean on the Mac , on the iPad . On the iPad .
MS : There are so many people on Twitter that have wanted this and then they got it and they ’re like , no , no , no .
JC : No , no , no , not this . This is not what we ask for .
MS : So yeah , I opine on the easiest way to say it is like , I want Stage Manager 2.0 . I want it to be more kind of that intercrossed twist that we ’ve been wait for Apple to do now for five geezerhood at least where the iPad is so brawny with these , you get it on , now it has an M1 chip shot and a mini LED presentation and it ’s 13 inches , possibly 14 , maybe 16 . Like it needs to be able to be so , various and flexible and it ’s just not .
RL : Jason , what ’s on your list ?
JC : I ’ll take off with the braggy one first because we all picked a few for this . We have a million affair we want . We just picked a few for this podcast . You fuck what ? I wo n’t depart with the biggest one . I ’ll do a different one first because it carry on with Mike ’s thing . It ’s meter to provide multiple users on the iPad .
MS : Oh my god , yes .
JC : Make it a pro matter even though there ’s no good reason for that . That would be a stupefied software lock and we would sound off about that . We ’d at least get something . There ’s no good reason to do this .
From what I understand the software that they provide for schooling who have iPads used for Education Department actually work like this . You actually , a undivided iPad can serve a whole bunch of students and the bookman access , get a profile and log it . So they ’re like halfway there .
MS : Yeah , they ’ve had that for a while too . It ’s not , I think that came out in like what 2015 or something it ’s been or 2017 it ’s been out for a little while .
JC : thing like tvOS is built on the same sort of fundament as iOS . It ’s not build on the macOS foundation garment and it has multiple users . This is there . It ’s all a policy idea that they just do n’t require to allow multiple users profiles on the iPad . I think with the warehousing they have and the performance they have and all that other stuff , you could do , that they could let you leave , lumber in somebody else . iPads are so divvy up these days that it ’s kind of a problem . It ’s kind of a problem that if you want to use somebody ’s iPad in your home , you ’re using their profile , right ?
MS : And it does n’t make a lot of sense . you may say that , well , they ’re not doing it because they want to betray more iPads . But I do n’t intend there ’s anyone that ’s count to make an multiple user say , oh , I ca n’t do that . I guess I ’ll have to grease one’s palms a 2d iPad . No one ’s doing that . They ’re just using these shortcuts and workarounds . And my son has apps on his thing that he does n’t desire because I require them . It ’s ridiculous .
JC : Yeah , precisely . And it ’s go under . Even if you ’re hunky-dory with that , it ’s like , no , I want this on my house CRT screen . I do n’t want that on the home screen . I want this clobber . Just get rid of all that . Multiple exploiter on iPad .
MS : Family iPads are a thing . masses keep them in their living way , and they all use them together . And it ’s , yeah , it would make a lot of good sense .
JC : Over in Android humankind , they ’ve had this for a while , and they do this on phones as well . I do n’t think they need to do it on sound . speech sound are such an inherently personal thing . But this is a perfect mode for Apple to say , iPadOS is not just iOS , correct ? They ’ve been trying to diverge these thing ever since they devote it its own name a few years ago . And this is a really , really scummy hanging fruit for them to say , this is how iPadOS is not iOS . This is one matter .
MS : Like it ’s on the Mac . Imagine you could n’t have multiple substance abuser on the Mac . They ’re not selling more or less Macs because they ’re multiple users . It ’s a convenience and a feature that is crucial . Apple wants you to utilize your iPad like you would a Mac or at least more like a Mac than you would an iPhone .
JC : Yes .
MS : Yeah . So multiple users are decidedly important . And it ’s so frustrating that yr after class after year that that WWDC keynote goes by and they do n’t use that as one of their slides .
JC : Even if they wanted to start with it being very special in that they would say , if you have a child account that you manage , you could have your child account on your iPad . That would be something that would be a minimum compromise so that you’re able to pass your Thomas Kyd your iPad with their grapple account on it or something . But no , nothing . Year after year , like you sound out . That ’s my compliments .
RL : The next particular on my list contradict your guys ’ detail on the wish list .
MS : You want no more iPad .
RL : I require the iPad to be stop . No , I do not require the iPad to be discontinued , that ’s a joke . I ’m hoping that at this WWDC , Apple announces that iOS , macOS , and iPadOS this twelvemonth gets basically just criminal maintenance update .
JC : Oh .
RL : That they take the time to kind of clean it up .
MS : That ’s Roman ’s affair . He be intimate maintenance . upkeep updates .
RL : I love sustenance updates .
MS : That ’s his principal affair .
JC : That ’s honest . There are a number of fans on the net who always say this because they always say , this launching was such a mess . There were all these bugs . They really require to take a year just to scavenge up and optimise everything and not add a bunch of features . That rings every year . There ’s a piffling second of truth to that .
RL : But I do n’t think they ’ll ever do it again .
MS : Well , I think they can do both . you’re able to have a microscope slide that focuses on execution and maintenance and also have a few new features .
JC : They do , but every clip there ’s bugs , somebody says , we have all these bugs because they focused on all these new feature film alternatively of concentrate all their feat on the bugs and the problems that have existed since last year and all this other material . I just do n’t think their software development work out that style . I do n’t suppose the teams are direct that agency . I do n’t think it ’s the same the great unwashed who would be operate on those thing as are knead on these other new features and stuff .
RL : Well , the grounds why I pluck it specifically for this year is because I think they could spend WWDC this year focus on xrOS , the OS for the headsets .
JC : Yes , I see that .
RL : And just make that the focus for the balance of the yr .
JC : Even the maintenance release of years hold out by , which they never call maintenance releases , But like , but –
RL : They do n’t call them that .
JC : Even they had some new features . It just very few , right ? It could use that . And I consider what we ’re move to get , if anything , is a piffling morsel the opposition . That kind of segue into my big hope . So –
RL : Perfect segue .
JC : Which is that , yeah , they ’re plain receive to do a whole lot of work , a whole lot of piece of work . It ’s like an all - hands - on - deck , upend - everything business to get Io ready for the European regulations that require them to provide , apps to be distributed outside the app memory board , to allow other defrayal selection , to allow multitude to choose different defaults . They might even do things like let web web web browser use their own interpretation engine other than WebKit , like all this material . And they have to do it because the regulations are require it .
So , my hope is , and we do n’t know how far they ’ll go , they ’re break down to do the minimum potential . There ’ll be a case about how it ’s not enough . They ’re going to fight that lawsuit and then make another change later . It ’s going to be a mickle , but it ’s going to definitely be more open in some ways . The rumor says that ’s only going to enforce to iPhones in the European Union where that constabulary use . in North America and stuff , it ’s plump to be every routine as operate down as it is now . My wish is that , just sting the bullet and make it planetary . Whatever changes you make , just make them for everybody . Make them here . There ’s no future , whether it ’s one class from now or 10 class from now , in which the equipment this important is as shut up down as it is now . Get forrader of it . Do n’t hold around all of this technical debt of receive two version of Io that operate differently in different region and all this other stuff . Just afford these things up to thedegree that you are , open up these things up all over the world . I just conceive it ’ll be good for consumer .
Most people will still only ever use the app store , whether it ’s side shipment or other app stores or whatever thing you do to leave citizenry to get apps another way . But that , other defrayal systems , all these thing .
SM : Even on Android , Google makes it moderately difficult , to get outside stuff that you experience to go into setting , you acquire to turn it on , you have to allow stuff . It ’s not like you could just crusade a button and download a crowd of viruses to your speech sound . They make it gruelling and Apple is hold out to make it probably even harder than that to get there . I accord it would be so much clean and easier .
And also from just from a pressing PR and effectual stand , like Apple would avoid so much negativity going forward if they just opted it for everybody at once .
JC : There ’s regulatory pressure for them to do that stuff here . It ’s just further behind than it is in the EU . The EU is done , they croak their law .
MS : The EU is always fashion , direction ahead .
JC : Yeah , they transcend their law , they made it and Apple ’s go to struggle it tooth and nail here . Whatever ends up happening here , whether it ’s a year from now or 2027 or whatever , is going to be spoilt than what they would have just voluntarily done .
MS : Yeah , for sure .
JC : You know , just voluntarily do it , get them off your backs , have one version of iOS for the domain , basically and not different policies and different features that work only in unlike region . Yeah , just get it done . That ’s my Leslie Townes Hope . I do n’t think they ’re pop off to do it . And it ’s funny because that ’s not where they make most of their money . It ’s not like most of their money do from App Store things . They make a lot , do n’t get me unseasonable , but they make most of their money selling devices and they ’re make all this serve revenue and all this other stuff . It ’s not –
MS : I mean there ’s a care and if you care in that Epic causa , some of those emails follow out and it seemed to kind of underscore this that , if they allow too many the great unwashed to do too many things between platforms that people just en masse , you know , leave the iPhone and go to a different cheaper alternative because I can still get iMessage , I can still get this , I can still get that . And I do n’t think that ’s true . I think people , savour their phones , you have a go at it , just from a hardware perspective , design perspective . But , you bang , that seems to be what drives most of these changes is that the ecosystem is so tight and so strong and so integrated that if someone pull one ribbon , the whole thing collapse . I do n’t believe that and I do n’t acknowledge if Apple believe that , but that ’s where it seems to be .
JC : It does seem culturally that they believe in their holistic ecosystem less as a , this is good for exploiter yield than a this is adept for Apple yield . Which is a lilliputian frustrating . Hey , the point in time is they ’re going to have to loosen some of those threads for the EU . They ’re already apparently doing a whole short ton of work to make it happen for the operating system update this year . Just give itto everyone . Give it to us too .
MS : That ’s going to be the most interesting thing at WWDC is because that ’ll probably be when they announce all this material like how far does it go , what do you , how does it work and you know it ’s also it ’s got to be difficult for them to have two totally unlike versions of iOS now around the world . That ’s going to add more layers of performance issues and bugs and the thing that we were just talking about .
JC : Yeah , that ’s why it made me think of it when Roman was talking about we need maintenance here . I ’m like , if anything , it ’s the other . They ’re pull everything up to make two versions . It ’s going to be a buggy class , I suppose . My guess is that they do n’t mention it at all during the even WWDC keynote . It ’s go bad to be during some session , there ’s croak to be like , how do you use these young theoretical account and stuff like that ? But it ’s , I think that they ’re move to focus during the keynote sessions . Yeah , it ’s pass to be entirely on amazing Modern feature and not on , and you may sideload apps or , and you could choose a default web browser and whatever , stuff like that .
RL : Mike , what ’s on your list ?
MS : I ’m very iPad - centrical . I need Apple to completely pass the entire card . Make it make sensory faculty again .
JC : There are too many iPads .
MS : It ’s too many iPads . There are too many overlapping features . So I ’ll start with the Pro . Get disembarrass of the 11 in . Just have the Pro be 12.9 and if there ’s a big one , 14 or 16 , okay .
JC : Okay . Cosigned .
MS : So get rid of that . Keep the iPad Air , but take it back to an A poker chip . So have the A17 or whatever it is microprocessor chip . I do n’t think it call for an M. Leave the M series for the Pro . The iPad miniskirt , I ’m on board with that . Of course , that ’s fine . So , all aright , so that leaves us with the brain-teaser .
The entry point iPad , there ’s two of them , correct ? The ninth gen and the 10th gen . The tenth gen is just a chokepoint of price issues and features . The ninth gen is old and between those two , figure out a way to make a $ 299 version that figures out how to off the price level , like the iPhone SE . It ’s hard now to go back to the home button , they got rid of the home button , but they have to figure out that 10th gen iPad if that ’s the room onwards .
JC : Even $ 329 , but they need to , yeah , they take a really low-cost iPad .
MS : Right . $ 449 is right smart too much .
JC : And they ca n’t just keep stringing along the ninth gen .
MS : Yeah . Right . How long do you do that for ?
JC : I think the answer is pop the 9th gen , make the 10th gen more affordable . Whatever you ’ve got to do to make that befall .
I do n’t know if I ’m on board with the whole iPad Air does n’t need the M1 . I do n’t know what severalize the strain if it ’s not got the M1 .
MS : Well , if you take off the 11 - in professional , you have a 10.9 - inch Air , 12.9 - inch , and then an 8.3 - column inch Mini . I entail , the other one would … I think the 9th Gen was fine . Give that an ascent and keep it because multitude , they like the 9 - button . They ’re not –
JC : No , I think of the Air .
MS : I do n’t screw what you do . Yeah , yeah , the Air versus the 10th Gen you ’re talking about , right ?
JC : Or the Pro . I think it can have the M micro chip , but it would n’t have HDR . It would n’t be big .
MS : That ’s what I ’m saying . Get rid of the 11 inch so you do n’t have this . The Pro is just a great projection screen and a well chip and whatever else .
JC : What I mean is you said do n’t have an M Saratoga chip on the Air . I said do have an M buffalo chip on the Air because that ’s how you need it . Otherwise , why not just get the tenth Gen ?
MS : Well , that ’s the affair . That ’s what confuses me even in my own trace . I ’m not sure what to do with it . I do n’t think Apple jazz what to do with it either .
JC : That ’s why I say give it the M cow dung because it ’s like you ’re go to get the performance of the Pro , but you ’re not going to get HDR . You ’re not going to get the large size . You ’re not going to get the fancy tv camera . You ’re not drop dead to get LiDAR .
MS : Is anyone buying an iPad for a better bit ? I guess some the great unwashed might be .
JC : Yeah . I mean , that ’s what the Pro mass are writing for .
MS : The 10th gen and the iPad Air , you put those things side by side , I do n’t imagine anyone ’s going to be able to tell the difference in functioning . Not at that level . On a Mac , sure . But on the iPad , it ’s fast . It ’s very fast . And it ’s going to be with an A16 or 15 , whatever is in the tension . And the M1 , there ’s not a measurable difference in the normal things that you do on an iPad with those two crisp . But yeah , so the check is fine . Keep the M1 . I do n’t manage about that so much .
JC : But differentiate it more by not having a small professional .
MS : And they got ta figure out what that low-down - end looks like because it ’s just too perplexing right on now .
JC : I mean , that 10th gen is n’t really even low - end anymore , right-hand ?
MS : I know , but it ’s also not high end and it just makes most like , I ca n’t conceive of that someone at Apple project that , and Tim Cook did n’t say like , what is , like , what are we doing with this ? Like , who is it for ? What ’s the point ?
JC : And while we ’re at it , just shoot down the old pencil . What are you doing ?
MS : Yeah . I mean , I do n’t handle what the explanation is . There was that rumor that they had oneready and they killed it and they had to go , but I do n’t care . It ’s cockeyed .
JC : Now that you have the camera on the border that you would charge it , it ’s like there ’s no room for the charge . I do n’t have a go at it what you have to do to solve that problem . Charge it on the side . You ’re a $ 2 trillion company . Solve that problem .
MS : severely , figure it out . It ’s so unhinged .
JC : The old pencil has to go .
RL : Jason , do you have one more ?
JC : I do . The iPhone ’s image processing has , for the last couple of days , get a small overzealous . If you just take a picture , you’re able to get some beautiful look pictures , peculiarly on your screenland . But they ’re over - pure . They ’re over - sharpened . They ’re over noise reduction to the stage where if you are looking at them whizz along in , you crop in or you wait on your electronic computer , especially some aloof object and stuff like that , it begin to look like blob of charge plate and they lose their point because they ’re trying so hard to do haphazardness reduction and sharpening and stuff . You get sharpen artifacts . They want to tone it down . I want a more natural face for the iPhone ’s image processing . Now , the color oversaturation you’re able to deal with photographic styles . I do n’t retrieve a deal of people do , but you may . It ’s not a big deal , but the sharpening and noise reduction stuff is too much .
I feel like you take a depiction , that ’s all you get . You ca n’t years later go back and recapture that picture . That ’s your store , so just do n’t process it so heavily .
RL : Is that part of that photogenic locomotive engine or whatever the heck that thing is called ?
JC : No , the photonic engine . No , it ’s been doing this for a match of eld . It ’s just part of their regular image processing that they ’ve been doing for … since the photonic railway locomotive is just a this yr matter and just on the unexampled computer hardware , it go back to , I desire to say the iPhone 11 or 12 , and the Io of that meter . you’re able to retrieve some of the more hard-core exploiter , specially on Reddit and stuff with some really skillful side - by - side example where they ’ll just go like , here ’s what this bike take care like in the background and then here ’s what it looks like on this other matter and you see where , well , this looks like a blob of plastic and the spokes are messed up and this one does n’t . It ’s less noisy , but it ’s also just like the processing is way too strong .
So , I would care more natural processing and unfortunately , the raw mood is not the resolution . The camera raw on iPhones , it ’s not like raw on a DSLR where it ’s just the straight camera yield . It ’s still doing all this processing and multiple photo figure processing . There ’s a whole pipeline . It ’s just building in the full picture kitchen range of data , but it ’s still doing all the sharpening and noise decrease and all that other stuff . I want a more natural image processing where I sense like 10 year from now , when I look at this image , I ’m not live to be like , I can never get back that point . you may always take a chintzy persona from a long time ago and improve it with newer , better processing , but you may never go back and get particular that was lose from your original moving-picture show .
perchance even it ’s a mode . Maybe it ’s a electric switch in configurations , camera , there ’s a toggle for like , you bed , natural image processing or something , give it some name , you know , Apple has to attach a name to everything .
RL : Mike , you got another one ?
MS : Yeah , I got , I ’ll do an iPhone photographic camera one , two . Well , not a camera , a photo one . And this is just a full-strength rip off of Google . I need that magic eraser feature film to come to Apple Photos because it ’s awe-inspiring . It process really well .
So what it is , is you take a photo and there ’s something in the background that you do n’t like or someone photobombs you or there ’s just something that you want to clean up and you literally just go into a musical mode , circle it and it just kind of uses AI to figure out how that background signal would seamlessly gel , take it out and it ’s awesome .
JC : It ’s Photoshop ’s content - mindful filling .
JC : But built into your phone like with a really simple interface .
MS : And super easy . Like you do n’t have to care , it just works . And it ’s the kind of affair that Apple would come out with and also call Magic Eraser . Like it ’s so much an Apple feature .
JC : Especially , yeah , calling it magic . Yeah .
MS : Yeah . I do n’t care if it ’s a ripoff . Like there ’s enough of thing that Apple ’s copied and Google is copied from each other , it ’s o.k. .
JC : Sure .
MS : Just copy .
JC : Yeah . Apple ’s object detection and material is really good . They have that feature build into iOS now where you could take the subject out of an image and stuff like that .
MS : Yeah , it ’s the same . It ’s got to be like .
JC : Yeah , that form of partitioning and aim detecting is part of it . And then the capacity aware fill stuff –
MS : That ’s unspoilt than anything you get on Google . I ’m certain that 90 pct of your iPhone , maybe even higher , do n’t employ it . Yeah , they know where it is .
JC : And it turn on Macs and engorge too .
MS : Or at least as someone who spend a lot of time on Photoshop like with the playpen peter cutting thing out . It ’s pretty sweet .
JC : Yeah . Depending on your effigy , you could get some janky edges sometimes , but it ’s pretty good . Photoshop ’s depicted object aware fill is exchangeable . And this is not something that I think like Apple would be reinventing the wheel . I think they can do this .
MS : I mean , Google has it on their cheapest headphone . It ’s not something that –
JC : Oh , no . Apple would totally make it an iPhone 15 –
[ unresolved ] : I do n’t have any data about that , but I found something similar . Do you desire to screw what the cheapest telephone set ever is ?
MS : What ?
JC : All right . I ’m changing my want .
RL : That ’s on all of our indirect request list is that Siri got sound at reply .
MS : I do n’t bonk if that’s … What the hell is fall out ?
RL : Oh , technology .
MS : Hold on . I ’m not even certain what ’s playing .
RL : That was n’t Siri ?
MS : Well , it ’s not Siri . What is playing ?
JC : I heard a HomePod . I heard what sounded like a HomePod .
RL : I think it was Siri .
MS : I do n’t know where that come from or what it was . Wow , that was fun . We should absolutely leave that in .
JC : The only reason Siri being better was n’t on my inclination is because it ’s always on my list . It ’s like Siri ’s , Apple squander their spokesperson AI wind and they have n’t caught up ever . And it keeps gravel better , but they ’re still behind . They ’re always behind . They ’re behind Google Assistant in a measurable elbow room constantly . And they necessitate to get on .
RL : The thing is , it ’s not just a hope for 2023 . It ’s like an ongoing cognitive process that we want to see occur twelvemonth after year after year and it has n’t been happening . I just do n’t want to see Siri get better in 2023 and terminate . I want to see it continue so I get better .
JC : Yeah . I experience like the position that they had with Apple Maps . Apple Maps was such an embarrassment out the gate . And their architecture was such a farrago of other seed all layer together and everything . That when they , it has to be like five class ago or something now , but they said , we ’re starting over , it ’s all extend to be all our own data . getting rid of all this other data point that we ’ve been using and we ’re build a new architecture and we ’re build newfangled feature of speech . Apple Maps is honestly pretty good now . It ’s been a really , really big , really , really expensive yr after year continued effort of drive it forward and they keep doing it .
I palpate like that ’s the way Siri needs to be . They just need to say , you bonk what ? Siri is not something that ’s ever done . It ’s something that ’s a monolithic task every single year .
RL : So my last one , my last hope for 2023 is since we ’re talking about stuff we ’ve already mouth about , this is one we ’ve talked about several clip on the show , is that Apple increases the default iCloud memory board over five gigabytes . I would even be felicitous if Apple had an case and that ’s all they announced . degenerate the mic and walk down the stage . Just give us more than five gigabytes .
JC : Yeah , five gigs is so bad that even 10 , like it could reduplicate it and you ’d still be like , that ’s not enough .
RL : Right .
MS : Google gets 15 and that ’s kind of not enough .
JC : Yeah . But I realize that they do n’t need to make the free version enough for everybody .
So I get that . But it needs to be enough that you could do canonical matter . Yeah .
JC : It in all probability is n’t , but it ’s not depending on , your photograph and all that stuff and nonsense . But aboveboard , 20 gigs today is still less compared to how much data things take up than five gigs was when they start out commit us five lance .
MS : Yeah , gravely . Yeah .
JC : Right ? And so , it would still be , there ’s still plenty of reason for somebody who has plenty of photos or television or thing like that to want to ante up their $ 1.99 a calendar month and get 200 gigs or whatever . The basketball will jump through not to raise it from five gigs … when you ’re raise your phone , if you do n’t have enough iCloud storage , we ’ll give you free iCloud storehouse for your backup , just for the duration of your upgrade . All this stuff , it ’s like , argh ! . You do n’t have to go through all of these thing , just give hoi polloi more computer storage .
MS : And along those channel , I want Time Machine computer backup for iCloud on the Mac . Just have me back up . If you have like maybe you need a terabyte or whatever , like make it a mellow tier thing that you require . But let me do it .
JC : Yeah , make it an Apple One thing .
MS : specially now that iPhone backups are encrypted , like they ’re being encrypted . That ’s not an issue anymore . So with the advanced data protection that came out last month , just do it .
JC : Well , that ’s iPhone stuff .
MS : Yeah , but I assume that they could just land it to them because there ’s no reason for it .
JC : Yeah , Time Machine backups are their own capsulise data point . They could cypher that and then easily . That ’s just your stuff and nonsense and it ’s your automobile patronage . But backing up a whole computer , it ’s a lot of data point and that ’s kind of slow , but there are plenty of swarm backups , data point memory company .
MS : They can do it restfully while you do work and you do n’t even bonk it . Take two time of day , that ’s all right .
JC : Yeah , it ’s just about the information , people ’s internet upload speeds and material like that . That ’s where I ’m saying it . But there be , it ’s an optional feature . There exist cloud substitute data reposition solutions . Apple , I do n’t see any reason why Apple should n’t permit that to hap . Make it for people who have Apple One Premier or whatever or anything . Who handle ?
RL : That does it for this sequence of the Macworld Podcast , episode 822 . Thanks to Jason Cross . Thanks to Michael Simon . And thanks to Thanks to you , the audience . give thanks you for tuning in .
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